Andrew Ollerton's take on Suffering and Evil. Part III

In this three part article I am looking at the response of Andrew Ollerton to Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch's loss of faith. Andrew Ollerton is the author of the Bible Society's successful Bible and Romans courses, courses we have run at our church. Andrew's answer to Kemi Badenoch can be found on the Premier Christianity website here.  The Premier article is divided into three parts: Viz:

Part 1: What Andrew refers to as his Logical Response. I looked at  this in Part I of the series

Part 2: This is about Andrew's Biblical Response. I looked at this in Part II of this series

Part 3: This concerns Andrew's Pastoral Response, and is the subject of this blog post.

Below I interleave Andrew's Pastoral Response with my own comments.

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 Andrew's  pastoral response

Andrew: Finally, a pastoral response is found at the foot of the cross where God himself entered our world of pain. From the agony of the cross Jesus expressed feelings of abandonment that no doubt resonate with many victims: “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”

Christianity doesn’t sidestep suffering; it centres on it. God’s plan may play out more slowly than we would like. But planted in the centre of it is the cross, where God himself bore the weight of our sin and made it his own.

MY COMMENT: I think I can agree with that: God in Christ has closely identified himself with our painful predicament. Christianity, therefore, does hit the problem of suffering square on. But can it face-off and ultimately out-stare that problem? True, if the very express image of God (Heb 1:3), the Creative Logos (John 1:1ff), and the one who can say "if  you have seen me you have seen the Father" (John 14:8ff) suffers with his Creation, then it feels very plausible that in the deep theology of soteriology an answer to the question of suffering and evil is lurking in there somewhere. But if we are going to accept the existence of God wouldn't PZ Myers "solution" be an easier and more likely solution? i.e. 

PZ Myers: No one uses the problem of evil to disprove a god, but only the idea of a benevolent god, or more specifically, the perfectly good being most Christians promote. When I see it deployed in an argument, it’s usually to make the narrower point that I don’t believe in your god..........But OK, sure, (if) the problem of evil says you should be anything but a traditional Christian, I’ll take it.

See the link at the end of this post for my response to this challenge.

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Andrew: This doesn’t resolve all the mysteries. We still don’t know the answer to why God allows certain things to happen. But we know what it can’t be. It can’t be that God doesn’t love us. It can’t be that he doesn’t care. What difference does this make to our experience of suffering? A friend recently posted on social media as she neared the end of her battle with cancer: “As we walk through this dark valley, Jesus knows what we’re facing; he has the scars to prove it. And his presence gives us peace.”

MY COMMENT: Too right it doesn't resolve all the mysteries! Andrew is still insisting, nevertheless, that in spite of all the suffering and evil, God is good, loves us, understands our suffering and He will bring us to green pastures in the end; we are asked to have the faith to take consolation in that. But isn't it easier to draw the conclusion that either there is no God, or if He does exist he is a baddie?*

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Andrew: In her interview, Kemi Badenoch said she rejected the idea of God but still believed in cultural Christianity. However, the Bible does not offer us a set of moral values or a logical argument for God. Neither will suffice when pain and suffering hit. Instead, the Bible invites us to personally trust in Jesus Christ, the sovereign and suffering God, who is with us in the darkness and promises hope beyond it. 

MY COMMENT: Personally I'm glad that Kemi Badenoch is at least a "cultural Christian" (along with Richard Dawkins) because the Bible does offer us a set of moral values we can at least aspire to and hopefully be challenged by: Viz: Compassion, concern for the downtrodden, justice, equality in diversity, selfless service, and humility, values which emerge out of the Spirit of the Law (James 2:8, Rom 13:8). It is these values against which we measure ourselves but find we are wanting; For, above all the crucial Biblical lesson is that whatever our aspirations, our morally flawed & epistemically challenged human nature means that we are never going to be very good at implementing those Biblical moral values - far from it, in fact. This calls for Salvation from our predicament.

Rendering Andrew's pastoral advice in my own words he seems to be saying this: "Trust in Jesus, have faith, set your sights on the future hope and stay calm and carry on". That may or may not be good pastoral advice given the circumstances....I don't know; I'm not a pastor. Pastoring is a tough call. My response to Myer's challenge can be seen here.... 

Views, News and Pews: Theology According to PZ Myers

....but it's no pastoral response.

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Footnote:

* The idea of a bad God may entail internal contradictions; evil and selfishness may promote such internal chaos that it causes eventual complete self-cancellation in a way not unlike the unstable wave solutions in a cavity resonator, solutions which decay away to a whisper. 

Andrew Ollerton's take on Suffering and Evil. Part II

In this three part article I am looking at the response of Andrew Ollerton to Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch's loss of faith. Andrew Ollerton is the author of the Bible Society's successful Bible and Romans courses, courses we have run at our church. Andrew's answer to Kemi Badenoch can be found on the Premier Christianity website here.  The Premier article is divided into three parts: Viz:

Part I: What Andrew refers to as his Logical Response. I looked at  this in Part 1 of the series

Part II: This is about Andrew's Biblical Response, and is the subject of this blog post. 

Part III:  This concerns Andrew's Pastoral Response, and will be the subject of the next post in this series.

Below I interleave Andrew's Biblical Response with my own comments.

Andrew's BIBLICAL REPONSE

Andrew: Secondly, let’s consider a biblical response. Taken as a whole, the Bible depicts God as the enemy of evil and never the cause of it. In Genesis, God created only what is good.

MY COMMENT: Many Christians (and that includes myself) have trouble getting round the genocidal slaughterings of the Book of Joshua, slaughterings which are depicted as the implementation of God's will. OK, there may be apologetics here that takes into account the mitigating constraints which arise if one is constrained to play humanity at their own game, but it means that God as the enemy of evil and never the cause of it is not an immediately obvious truism*.  The statement In Genesis, God created only what is good, is deeply issue laden: For example, can we equate the "good" of Genesis 1 with perfection? At a lecture in Norwich Cathedral Cambridge University biologist & Faraday institute member Denis Alexander  maintained that in Genesis 1 "good" meant fit for purpose and not perfection. In fact the Bible itself is clear that the creation was far from perfect: Firstly, humanity was given the task of subduing and organizing the chaotic Earth beyond the garden of Eden and this suggests that the Earth was less than perfect and needed more creative work to be done. 

But secondly the real challenge to the notion of a perfect creation is found in the Biblical fact that the two main created players in the cosmic drama, namely humanity and Satan, were given a less than perfect power of choice, a power which allowed them to implement choices which could endanger "project earth" and send it on a near catastrophic course in the space-time continuum. Unfortunately I too have that less than perfect power of choice, so unless I'm a radically renewed animal I'd better be barred from the New Heavens and Earth of Revelation 21. There is only one force in this world that can radically renew my power of choice....

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ANDREW: At the end of Revelation, [God] promises to restore all things. Now, as we interpret God’s ways ,,,,, we must avoid two dangers. One is to equate God’s silence or hiddenness with indifference. Kemi Badenoch assumes that if God cared for Elisabeth Fritzl, he would prove it by stepping in. However, while God is active in the world, he has given humans free will. He is not a puppet-master continually tweaking reality.

As the late Rabbi Jonathan Sacks noted: “We believe God gave us freedom. It is the most fateful decision he made in the entire universe.” God teaches us what is good but does not forcibly prevent us from doing evil. Josef Fritzl is therefore responsible for his actions. To blame God for such malevolence overlooks the serious truth of free will. 

MY COMMENT: I can accept that God's silence or hiddenness doesn't necessarily imply indifference. But if we are expecting God to step in and stop the suffering then why is there any suffering and evil in the first place? ..... Because surely an intervening God would then be obliged to step in from the get-go. Therefore that a morally perfect omni-everything God has allowed suffering and evil to multiply from day one remains a mystery at this stage. However, as I mentioned in part I we now have to face the challenge of atheist PZ Myers who wrote:

No one uses the problem of evil to disprove a god, but only the idea of a benevolent god, or more specifically, the perfectly good being most Christians promote. When I see it deployed in an argument, it’s usually to make the narrower point that I don’t believe in your god..........But OK, sure, (if) the problem of evil says you should be anything but a traditional Christian, I’ll take it.

Well, OK I may not agree with that, but it is a robust & genuine challenge; namely, that the easy explanation for suffering and evil, if one assumes God exists, is that God isn't God as Christians perceive Him and instead a real baddie. But as a response to the question of suffering and evil I find Andrew's talk of "freewill" a cliche that is far from adequate; the general idea behind the "freewill" argument is that if we can source suffering and evil in human and satanic choices then this absolves God of any creative responsibility for the world's problems; the claim is that it is all down to human & satanic "freewill". God is therefore let off the hook. But the bad news is that so-called "freewill" is a minefield of issues....

Firstly one would have to trace all those flawed "freewill" decision making processes back to God's creation of agents who have the propensity to make such morally disastrous decisions. Secondly, as I have made a case for in the past, the debate between so called "freewill" and "determinism" is suspect from the point of view of meaningful intelligibility. The concepts of both "freewill" and "determinism" used by both sides of the debate fall-over on questions of their coherence. Therefore the resort to "freewill" is no answer to Myers' challenge and fails to off-load moral responsibility for the Creation's woes from the Creator to the Creation's acting agents. 

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ANDREW: The opposite danger is to assume God’s current tolerance of evil is permanent. It is not. God has set a day to end injustice and hold evildoers to account, including Fritzl. Moreover, those like Elisabeth who have suffered at the hands of earthly fathers will have their tears wiped away by their heavenly father.

Then and only then, from the vantage point of eternity, will pain and suffering be put into perspective. To feel deep anguish in the face of evil today is absolutely right. But to reject God for this reason is premature. Instead, we need to hold on in hope and echo the cry that concludes the Bible: “Maranatha! Come Lord!”

MY COMMENT: I feel there is some force in the above apologetic: It's true that there is a measure of amelioration if one puts suffering and evil in the context of a much larger divine plan, a plan which includes ultimately putting the world permanently to rights and satisfying justice....the respective theological terms for this are expiation and propitiation.  The idea here is that the New Eternal Heavens & Earth which are metamorphosed from the current creation will be so wonderful as to make all the temporary suffering of this world worth it. The New World will be like waking up from a bad dream, or for what is for some a nightmare.  But there will be no waking up from the bad dream if its choosing agents still have a propensity for selfishness. 

......to be continued

 Footnotes

*  I have heard the view expressed that the apparently God-ordained murderous genocides in the book of Joshua is the Bible's authoritative and candid account informing us of the then erring human understanding of how God works. The same idea could by applied to some of the Psalms

Andrew Ollerton's take on Suffering and Evil. Part I

In this three part article I will be looking at the response of Andrew Ollerton to Conservative Party leader Kemi Badenoch's loss of faith. Andrew Ollerton is the author of the Bible Society's successful Bible and Romans courses, courses we have run at our church. Andrew's response to Badenoch can be found on the Premier Christianity website here. Below I interleave some of Andrew's content with my own comments. 

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Andrew: In a recent BBC interview, the leader of the Conservative Party, Kemi Badenoch, revealed that her belief in God was destroyed when she put her ear to the monstrous crimes of Josef Fritzl. For Kemi Badenoch, the idea of a God who ignores the cries of victims like Elisabeth, while answering other relatively trivial prayers, is completely untenable.

My Comment: I'm not going to elaborate on the awful crimes of Josef Fritzl toward his daughter Elizabeth; that can be discovered on the internet. Suffice to say here that Kemi Badenoch was quoted as saying that when she heard about these crimes what faith she had was snuffed out like a candle flame. Kemi has my sympathies; so often the challenge of suffering overwhelms any attempt at theodicy. But at this juncture I'm reminded of this post where I considered  atheist PZ Myers' response to suffering and evil. Viz: 

PZ Myers: No one uses the problem of evil to disprove a god, but only the idea of a benevolent god, or more specifically, the perfectly good being most Christians promote. When I see it deployed in an argument, it’s usually to make the narrower point that I don’t believe in your god..........But OK, sure, (if) the problem of evil says you should be anything but a traditional Christian, I’ll take it.

Well, that's a slightly different response to Kemi Badenoch's atheistic reaction to the problem of suffering and it is one, as we shall see in Part II of this two part series, which challenge's Andrew's apologetic. 

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Andrew Ollerton: No doubt we all share Kemi Badenoch’s moral outrage at this horrific crime. But must we also share her atheist conclusions? In the dark of evil and suffering, is belief in God morally justifiable?

My Comment: According to Myers the question has changed to this: Is belief in a Christian God morally justifiable?  But more about that in Part II. What now follows is what Andrew calls his Logical Response to Kemi B. 

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ANDREW'S LOGICAL RESPONSE

Andrew Ollerton: Firstly, some logic. If God does not exist then the universe consists of nothing but motion, matter and blind chance. Moreover, without God moral concepts such as ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ are arbitrary and carry little weight.

My Comment: Not quite in my view! Without God the universe consists of nothing but a meaningless patchwork of conscious sensations and yet which appear to be coherently organized by an inexplicable set of succinct and elegant laws, the mystery of whose origins is unsolved and in fact is logically unsolvable by mere descriptive science without getting into an "algorithms-all-the-way-down" regress. Moreover, particles, motion, space, chance and matter are not fundamental; rather they are mathematical constructions made conceptually possible by the organization of experience, but the true nature of the "thing-in-itself-ness" associated with these constructions is obscure; these objects are only known through our perceptions and conceptions.*

And yet in spite of that, concepts of right and wrong can be derived from conscious cognition in so far as the compulsions of sentience quickly teaches us what constitutes bad experiences to be avoided and which, in that sense, can be classified as "wrong". It's no doubt a crude gauge as to what is morally right and wrong, but it's a start.... the qualia of conscious cognition naturally categorizes experiences as "bad" or "wrong" whether we believe in a deity or not. In fact we can go a bit further: If we have some idea as to what is "bad" for us, then  given our ability to get into the the minds of others we are able to extrapolate, at least to some extent, as to what is also bad for them. 

However, the foregoing is no complete fix for the questions of morality because the long term ramifications of human action for the conscious cognition of both ourselves and others may be difficult to work out for epistemically challenged human beings. But acknowledging  the existence of the role of pre-existing sentience in defining morality gets the moral ball rolling; it's a pointer that right and wrong are not completely arbitrary constructions carrying little weight.  But this conclusion is based on the assumed existence of sentience, a sentience which touches, feels and thinks.  

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Andrew Ollerton: As C.S. Lewis noted, the assumption that a line is crooked implies the existence of a straight line. To say that someone’s actions are morally ‘wrong’ presupposes a ‘right’ way. Otherwise, all human behaviour is just ‘natural’. 

My Comment:  My guess is that both theists and atheists would identify the origins of morality in the social accommodation & reconciliation of the conscious feelings of themselves with that of other humans; in this connection the Golden Rule is universally understood as the basic heuristic of morality. However, the fair implementation of the Golden Rule in community is not straightforward and Christians would likely appeal to God's omnipotent perception of society for the finer points of such an implementation. But the beginnings of the moral "straight-line" which Andrew speaks of is to be found in the consciences of both atheists and theists. 

What ought to be clear, however, is that moral rights or wrongs don't exist simply because God, apparently for arbitrary reasons, labels them as such. Rather, I would propose that God declares what is right and wrong based on deep social implications which emerge from the Golden Rule, a rule which only makes sense given, a priori, the  existence of conscious cognition, a context where it is meaningful to talk of good and bad experiences. 

Contrast the former with the views of fundamentalist theme park manager Ken Ham, who comes close to defining morality  simply in terms of rules invented by God without acknowledging the deeper "Golden Rule" logic behind these rules.  Poor old Ken seems to have got no further with his concept of morality than something being "right" or "wrong" simply because "God said so". Yes, God lays down the law, but the motivations driving this law are be found in a community of beings who touch and feel and must reconcile the conflicts of interest which inevitably result of living together.  

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Andrew Ollerton: If Kemi Badenoch no longer believes in God, then what grounds her belief in morality and why is she so angered by evil and injustice? Atheism cannot explain our feelings of moral outrage. What Josef Fritzl did to his daughter was not ‘Wrong’ with a capital W unless we believe there is a ‘Right’ way for a father to treat his daughter.

My Comment: Suffering doesn't need to be labelled as wrong by God: It argues for itself as wrong, just as one's experience of say the colour red argues for itself as red and isn't "red" simply because it is called "red".  My guess then is that Ms. Badenoch has strong in-built instincts about the suffering associated with injustice and evil and these remain as the basis of her morality whether she believes in God or not. True, as a Christian I believe these instincts are created and maintained by the God of creation just as is the rising of the Sun. But disbelief in God doesn't mean to say moral urges go away, although like the rest of the cosmos their sheer existence is inexplicable to bland atheism.

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Andrew Ollerton: Equally, Fritzl can only be brought to justice if he was responsible for his actions and not merely subject to genetics, brain chemistry, and primal urges. In short, the reason we have a problem with evil is because we believe in a good God. This still leaves us wrestling with many mysteries. But to reject God because of evil is to saw off the very branch we are sitting on. 

My Comment: Fritzl is responsible for his actions even if they have "causes" in genetics, brain chemistry and primal urges. (One of those primal urges is the ability of most human beings to empathetically extrapolate feelings to other humans). See my series of articles on freewill and predestination for more on this subject (See here, here and here)

I disagree: The reason we have a problem with "evil" is not because we believe in a good God, but because we have strong empathetic instincts about the effect of evil on conscious cognition, and these instincts are common to both theists and atheists. I would agree however that such instincts are sourced & maintained by God and that without God empathetic moral behavior not only appears anomalous but has no apparent absolute anchoring. Its existence is as perplexing as the origins and maintenance of the laws of physics. For in a cosmos where a survival "ethic" is the only constraint on the dynamics of existence, standard "Golden Rule" morality has no logically obliging basis (See The Riddle of the Sphinx)

.....to be continued

Footnote

* The subtle twist here is that we find we can describe the formal structure of our conscious cognition in terms of these mathematical constructions.

North American Intelligent Design and Rule by Diktat

"F*ck climate science!"

A post on the North American Intelligent Design website Evolution News is apparently in favour of the idea is that the Smithsonian Institute is being called to heel by the Trump Administration. Here are some quotes (with my emphases) from the article & accompanied by my comments. 

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Evolution News: New Criterion editor Roger Kimball rightly takes issue with the assumption that correcting the problems with the Smithsonian Institution is a mere “footnote” to a larger agenda. On the contrary, he sees it as being of “central” importance. 

My Comment: What is that larger agenda and why is kicking the Smithsonian into line of central importance? The Evolution News article then quotes Roger Kimball....

Roger Kimball: The Trump administration just announced that it would be conducting a detailed "internal review" of the Smithsonian's exhibitions and curatorial practices in order to root out wokeness and return the sprawling agglomeration of museums to their founding purpose (on who's say so, I wonder?).  It is part of the fulfillment of [Trump's] Executive Order to abolish the racist and divisive practice of DEI.  [See picture] below.....

Click to enlarge.

My Comment:  My take on the subject of "Wokeness" can be seen here. (The term is used as an alarmist political rallying cry by the far right - whom one might refer to as the "unwoke".).  See also here. 

Whatever one's opinion of Western society's current malaise and its philosophical disquiet, it is in fact an ethos which has slowly evolved since the enlightenment (and ironically it may even have its roots in the Reformation with the latter's emphasis on individualism, self-determination and freedom of conscience). But, one thing is clear: This ethos hasn't been imposed by centralised diktat, but as the above quote actually acknowledges it's evolution was a gradual process. In contrast I read the above as very much in favour of our aspiring would-be-dictator Trump commandeering the institutions of education in favour of what is likely to be an imposed "unwoke" agenda. To the credit of the conservatives mentioned, they have shied away from the methods of diktat because it is likely they have understood it to be an attack on the hard won democracy of the Western world. It's no surprise that the Putin admiring Donald Trump "understands" the world of commandeering. 

The article continues as follows....

Evolution News: Denying human exceptionalism is intended to make human visitors to the museum feel animal-like and without special dignity. Though phrased in scientific terms, that’s as corrosive a message as the rest of the radical messaging.

My Comment:  Pointing out that human life is very much of a piece with the animal kingdom doesn't necessarily conflict with human exceptionalism. As I don't trust the alarmist assessments of the "unwoke" I would want to see chapter and verse where the Smithsonian explicitly rules out that humans are "animals++" or "animals 2.0". They may actually leave answering that big religious and very controversial question to visitor opinion; that would be the democratic way. 

Yes, that's right, I don't trust the stuff that Evolution News comes up with either. Some of its pundits are not what I would consider to be sufficiently competent (See here). I suspect that the above quote is working from a naïve "God did it xor evolution did it" dichotomy.

Evolution News: Arguably, it’s more corrosive, in that it attacks something — being human — that’s far more fundamental than being American. Social restoration, so urgently needed, can’t be accomplished if the public is consistently being told we are little better than animals in the forest. In telling us that, over and over, our institutions of science education train us to act like animals. And in that, they are succeeding.

My Comment:  Oh yes, the ethos that we are no more that animals in a meaningless and purposeless universe is corrosive of society. But to my mind the "unwoke" MAGA agenda is even more corrosive as it tries to usher in a government which attempts to fix "problems" by diktat. Aping the criminal and lying Putin regime is the direction I fear MAGA is going: Putin is to Russian Orthodoxy as Trump is to North American evangelicalism.

In comparison I have a lot more sympathy for genuine atheists such as this who have become captive to an all but empty philosophy and yet who have no intention of "correcting the problem" of theism by commandeering churches. In contrast does Evolution News, by identifying itself with the Trumpism, aim to impose upon us its philosophy of classic dualism? 

INTERESTING LINKS

1. "Trumptruth" trumps truth

When you don't like the news shoot the messenger boy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dj217z2w6o

2. A creeping Dictatorship?

Step back and take it in: the US is entering full authoritarian mode

3. Trump Scared of Putin?

The global struggle of Democracy vs Autocracy and the weakness of Trump

Just one man can stop Russia's war on Ukraine, warns expert - and it's not Trump or Putin

4. Trump acolyte Bannon talks up civil war in the UK!

Bannon, like Putin may actually want to see a civil war in the UK.

Britain is on the brink of civil war, says Steve Bannon

Let's recall that Bannon has a favourable view of Russia's dictator.  See this quote from Wiki....

Bannon has defended Trump's ties to and praise for Russian president Vladimir Putin.[399][422] He expressed a belief that traditionalists see Russia as an ally. Bannon said they "believe that at least Putin is standing up for traditional institutions, and he's trying to do it in a form of nationalism—and I think that people, particularly in certain countries, want to see the sovereignty for their country. They want to see nationalism for their country" rather than a "pan-European Union".[422] According to the book War for Eternity, Bannon met Russian far-right political philosopher Aleksandr Dugin in Rome in 2018 to advocate closer relations between the United States and Russia, as well as Traditionalist philosophy.[423][424] Bannon supports closer ties to Russia to ally them against China.

Too bad about allying with Russia against China, Steve old son! Looks as though Putin has already found his true allies!

5. I hope this isn't true

I've often wondered if Trump is his own man or if foreign powers have a hold over him. After all he seems powerless re: the Ukraine War. 

Putin has 'kompromat' file on Trump, says ex-KGB agent

But then there is this with Bannon taking a predictable view:

MAGA faithful turn on Trump over Ukraine policy shift

Mike Pence gives a warning....

Mike Pence has ‘no doubt’ Russia will attack Nato country if successful in Ukraine

6.  Stirring up Xenophobic Emotions

Below is a list of characters who have had a tendency (or more than a tendency in some cases) to exploit fears around unfavored "outgroups". They identify these "outgroups" as the people to blame for one's problems and discontent.  They use these fears to drum up a strong group identification.

At some stage it's worth me expanding on this subject more fully as the social exploitation of xenophobic emotions and "home team" identification is common to both political autocrats and religious cult leaders. Needless to say Adolf Hitler was the prototypical model for this kind of behavior.

Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin, Nigel Farage, Kim Jong Un, Noel Stanton, David Berg, David Koresh, Jim Jones, Ken Ham....etc

7. Trump starts to round up political adversaries

Trump promised retribution - how far will he go? - BBC News

8. Crankier and Crankier

Report: The West is plotting to eliminate humans with a virus

The Marxist, Anarchist and Libertarian Pipe Dream.

The "libertarian" notion that human society can somehow do without the interference of centralized information and control, especially given the latter's potential for being a resource of corrupt authoritarianism, is a yearning of many political idealists. As the above schema suggests (which I've cribbed from Wiki) "libertarianism" is an ideal which crosses the left-right fault-line and crops up among both left and right political agitators. I'm not quite sure why this common hankering exists; at a guess it's something do with instincts left-over from the time of those folksy communal freedoms which were the lot of hunter-gatherer communities. It is very tempting to dream about hunter-gatherer fireside life, a life which knew no ramifying cloud capp'd towers of information & control and where, best of all, in an intimate community there was little social anonymity: So, finding a sense of belonging, and an appreciated role where one could leave one's mark on society was a lot easier. 

At this juncture I can't help thinking of the relevance and mythical  meaningfulness of the Biblical Edenic story where it seems our erring fruit gathering ancestors were cast out of their original idyllic garden environment before they were fully ready to start populating & subduing the chaotic & imperfect earth. (See Gen 1:28). As it was to turn out, humanity then faced the double problem of not only subduing the earth but also subduing its own nature, as the subsequent books and chapters of the Bible illustrate.

Adam and Eve's post-Edenic sexual union produced the agriculturalists Cain and Abel. Cain was an arable farmer and Abel a pastoralist. After murdering Abel Cain was driven from his farm fearing popular vengeance for Abel's murder. But in spite of his crime God promised his protection and Cain went onto to build a city (Genesis 4:17). Building a city would imply that he was exploiting not only an efficient agricultural base but also had available the techniques of centralized information & control (such as writing) required for the successful organization, management and cooperation of the large concentrations of people that city life demands.

Although from Genesis 4 we see hate, vengeance and killing as the post-Edenic themes of the human predicament impeding Project Earth, nevertheless at that time progress in populating and subduing the earth was actually being made: A city was built, and tools of bronze and iron were fashioned. Above all, writing must have been invented to facilitate the centralized information and control necessary for city life. 

And yet the inevitable seedy sleaziness of urban life may have given rise to a yearning for a return to the idealized Edenic idyll before the advent of that signature of post Edenic life; namely, the city with its government, its appetite for information & control and its tendency toward collateral squalor.  But these are not the core problem of the East of Eden experience; they are only correlates. The heart of the problem is Sin, the word with the "I" in the middle (See the Book of Romans).

Conflating the correlates with the core problem of the human predicament is idealistic libertarianism's big mistake. This becomes clearer when we look at the following signature issues of right-leaning libertarianism, namely ....

* A tendency to believe in deep state conspiracy theorism. 

* Climate science skepticism - Climate science may be seen as a deep state disinformation campaign to excuse enhancing centralised information and control. 

* A priori opposition to pandemic lockdowns; again these lockdowns may be seen as part of a deep state hoax to excuse increasing centralized  control. 

* Belief in small government if not no government at all, sometimes to the point of anarchy. 

* Belief in a very unregulated free market; that's an oxymoron if there ever was one! A market can't function without standardization and agreement of standards, not to mention regulating the exploitation of workers, exploitation which fuels Marxist unrest.  

* Skepticism toward the institutions of society; e.g. the media,  academia, education, science institutions, politicians, health institutions, big business, the police.

* Little acknowledgement of the paradoxes of free-speech.

* Little acknowledgement that the high organization of complex adaptive systems (cf. organisms) make use of both distributed and centralized information & control. 

The above are part of a malaise which tends to view regulation, high social organization, government and the like (that is social information and control) as part of the problem rather than the solution. But for me information and control is neither the problem nor the solution; the problem is in the individual units which make up communities; namely human beings with their temptations to serve self first. When the latter is combined with the very natural epistemic challenges humanity faces we have on our hands a very explosive mix..... the human predicament.

Some of the above points are also very much part of left-wing libertarianism; in particular, a belief in the conspiracy of the owning classes, suspicion of the media, academia, large corporations, politicians and government in general - all of which are trappings of urban life, but to the leftist they will be seen as conniving with the owners of the means of production who are exploiting the working class. The Marxist doctrine is that in the structural levelling of society conflicts of interest between classes will dissolve and peace and harmony will reign. The abstraction behind this belief is that once you get the systems of society right the human problems will come out in the wash; that there is such a thing as a problematical human nature (which has its roots in the first person perspective) is at best considered irrelevant and at worst denied an existence.  

And finally an opinion I've expressed before: In their endeavor to purge society of centralized information and control in favour of distributed information and control libertarians face the irony of helping to create a power vacuum which sucks in would-be libertarian autocrats.

NOTE

I've published the following note on libertarian leaning James Knight's blog post here...

The Philosophical Muser: A Flawed Idea About Billionaires

What you are suggesting here may well work with somebody like Bill Gates who as far as I can tell has a sense of philanthropy and purpose (although the far right conspiracy theorists and Marxists will likely disagree!). As the centralised controller of high wealth he has done us well and is also concerned about world health. So no complaints there from me; If I were a billionaire I’d try to emulate him. See also Tim Coldwell from my Xenotron Case Study.

But Musk is a very different kettle of fish and he gives every impression of using his wealth to seek centralised power. This is where the marginal utility argument breaks down completely: For a start how can we measure the marginal utility of power? If we can define the analogue of a power-measure of marginal utility we would almost certainly have to re-calibrate our notion of it. Moreover, I doubt such a measure would decay at the rate of the elementary economics concept of marginal utility; in fact it may well increase with increasing wealth!

As you may have guessed I’m not very impressed with economics as an exact science; it gives us some rough rules of thumb…. guidelines and not tramlines. Moreover, its quantification measures aren’t very useful when it comes to the human thirst for power, status, influence, reputation and that whole cluster of motivations which revolve around social relations. However, I wouldn’t go as far as saying economics is bunk, but any pretense it might have to being a complete quantified description of the social dynamic breaks down in the human relational zone. 

Review of Sharon James Book , "The LIES...."

The above book was lent to me at church with the intention that I offer an opinion, which I did in this PDF review:

SharonJamesdocx.pdf - Google Drive

This book  comes out of a culturally right-wing evangelical Christian community. Let me be clear: I would not purchase this book anymore than I would purchase volumes from the Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons even though I have sympathy with their reactionary response to a confusing and alienating social milieu which offers little in the way of clear values, anchorage and meaning. But let me say this: My Open Gospel view of Christianity allows me to accept that the core truths of the gospel are robust enough to allow them to operate within trammels wide enough to work around many human foibles and quirky subcultures. 

RELEVANT LINKS

1. Wayne Grudem.

I mention Grudem in my review. Here's a guy who has studied his writings more closely:

• https://substack.com/home/post/p-167011073

Looks like a useful link to get up to speed on Grudem. 

The Debauched War of the Egos

 

Trump vs Musk bust up

The Trump-Musk bust up isn't a surprise to anyone; with their huge inflated egos buffeting against one another and in government not to serve but to get drunk on power we all knew that Musk and Trump would fall out eventually.  Only one hand can wield the Ring of Power. It's also no surprise that Steve Bannon has sided with Trump against Musk. See here.... 

Views, News and Pews: MAGA Infighting

The whole affair is a spectacle of power political debauchery. It has further compromised, if not brought to an end, America's global moral leadership. It has become increasingly clear that America is currently led by borderline sociopaths, narcissists and wannabe dictators who seek power in order to serve self. Thank you Ken Ham and Michael Brown for helping to bring about this current state of affairs.

Meanwhile in the UK there has also been a right-wing bust up, but perhaps not quite as vitriolic as the US....

Farage vs Yusuf bust up

The Reformed party that Nigel Farage heads up are well known for their almighty rows and splits. Is it because the right-wing tend to major in personality rather than policy? Is this the 1 Samuel 8 syndrome where leadership style Trumps content?

Relevant Links

The infighting hots up

'He's a snake': Elon Musk torches top Trump advisor as MAGA rift grows

 Steve Bannon's position

MAGA feud boils over as Steve Bannon calls for investigation of Fox News hosts

Compare the foregoing with these quotes from Bannon's Wiki page..

According to The Economist, a British news magazine, Bannon and Miller "see Mr [Vladimir] Putin as a fellow nationalist and crusader against cosmopolitanism"

Bannon has defended Trump's ties to and praise for Russian president Vladimir Putin He expressed a belief that traditionalists see Russia as an ally. Bannon said they "believe that at least Putin is standing up for traditional institutions, and he's trying to do it in a form of nationalism—and I think that people, particularly in certain countries, want to see the sovereignty for their country. They want to see nationalism for their country" rather than a "pan-European Union". According to the book War for Eternity, Bannon met notorious Russian ideologue Aleksandr Dugin in Rome in 2018 to advocate closer relations between the United States and Russia, as well as Traditionalist philosophy. Bannon supports closer ties to Russia to ally them against China.

 

Well done Mike Pence

'Unmoored from conservative ideals': Pence rips into MAGA for having no 'moral foundation'

The Genesis Account

Some Christians take the early chapters of the Book of Genesis literally; that is, they believe the Earth was created in 6 literal 24 hour days no more than about 10,000 years ago. A small minority of Christians, also of a literalist frame of mind, interpret other verses in the Bible (See for example Ps 104:5, Is 40.22, Job 26:10, Rev 7:1, 1 Chron 16:30 ) to mean that the Earth must be stationary and flat; Flat Earth Christians, by definition do not believe the Earth is a globe orbiting the Sun. For both Young Earthists and Flat Earthists any science which contradicts their beliefs is likely to be written off as a product of fallible human thinking; they do not see their understanding of the Bible, which in the final analysis is a product of their minds, as also subject to fallibility.

However, many Christians (possibly the majority), especially those in Universities, the sciences and Christian colleges, do not accept Young Earth and Flat Earth theories and  believe the Earth (and cosmos) to be many millions of years old. These Christians would likely claim that the disputed passages are a product of one or more of the following…

a)  A cultural perspective,

b)  Metaphorical/figurative/mythical expression,

c)  A poetic literary genre,

d)  A polemical and symbolic (rather than literal) attack on the world view of the religions of the day.

But whatever are one’s views on this subject, the Genesis account, above all, provides a clear polemical affirmation that God created everything apart from Himself.  This account cuts across religions which at the time of the writing of Genesis 1 were inclined to attribute divine status to created objects (such as the sun, moon and stars). It also cuts across some modern Gaia theories of the Earth. In contrast the Genesis account is clear that God is something other than the observable natural world and that the latter is not a totality.

The Genesis creation account describes creation using commonplace human thought-forms based on everyday observations. This makes the account comprehensible to a wide spectrum of human cultures, particularly the peoples of the Bronze Age who penned the account and who had no powerful instrumentation or sophisticated mathematical theories with which to aid in the description of cosmic organization. 

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